[馬來西亞] 前首相的女婿又如何？错了就是错了！

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（吉隆坡5日讯）凯里近日发表“下届大选不上阵”，原来是因为惹上“阿尔卡特贪污丑闻”而被逼远走高飞？ 0 T8 U% u/ n9 V
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博客网《Another Brick In The Wall》（墙上的另一块砖）指出，《Pejuang 4 L  V0 t7 b0 N
Bangsa》（民族斗士）是巫统青年团团长凯里所“赞助”的一个博客网。该博客网的1至2名负责人每月可领取7千至8千令吉的薪水。  os.tvboxnow.com6 ~8 z/ [0 U3 I! X: E) I! R+ }

; \# A% ?/ [' {% t; E1 H: ^' w9 ]2 y; A“今天，该博客网大肆报道回教党青年团团长纳斯鲁丁（Nasruddin Tantawi）力邀卡里跳槽但受到后者拒绝的文章。”
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“这些博客显然是消息不灵通兼肤浅的。他们应该知道纳斯鲁丁在回教党根本就交不出亮眼的政绩和在青年团中证明自己的能力，他多数时候只会说废话。所以，纳斯鲁丁只是在削弱自己的信誉。”
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“《Pejuang Bangsa》的博客应该开始寻找新的老板，因他们的米饭班主即将‘完成自己的心愿’以‘出国游学’或‘闭关自修’。当然凯里这种‘求学’并不是为了取得学位，而是为了一些‘特别因素’。”
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  《Pejuang Bangsa》应该详读亲巫统博客《Sakmongkol AK47》关于阿尔卡特公司（Alcatel）公司，涉嫌贿赂大马政府官员以获得2.6亿令吉电讯合约的文章。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb/ B6 f6 N( k& q) k# m/ ?& l

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如果还是不明白，那请读读《星报》的报道吧：
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“根据美国联邦地方法院的文件显示，大马阿尔卡特涉嫌在2004年10月至2006年2月期间，贿赂大马政府官员获取与公开招标相关的机密资料，以成功获得马电讯旗下天地通约8500万美元的3G相关服务的合约。os.tvboxnow.com  `' e8 c. b+ ?! V& n3 \% A" L
阿尔卡特虽然获得相关3G合约，不过该公司并没有相关经验，最后有关器材和计划废置。
8 }3 P- u* v- W% Z5 q' c' oos.tvboxnow.com上述事件在2007年已经浮上台面，不过从来没有任何一方进行调查；马电讯董事拿督努嘉斯兰在事件曝光后辞去稽查委员会主席职位，不过没有受到调查。努嘉斯兰也是现任埔莱区国会议员。 TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。, H+ w4 ?0 s& ]2 y: \
马电讯官联公司，财政部拥有这家公司的43%股权。 TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。9 N8 M% i9 L) O' a; Y3 d) m! J: E
消息指出，阿尔卡特于2005年付20万美元给大马的‘顾问A’；并在同年支付50万美元给‘顾问B’，这些款项都是一次过通过美国银行账户支付。而实际上，上述2名“顾问”在收款后并没有提供服务。
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《Sakmongkol AK47》指出收取了20万令吉的“顾问A”是大马阿尔卡特主席诺拉莎（Dato Dr Norraesah），她是毕业于法国的经济学家，也是巫统受委的最高顾问。
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“一个公司必须付‘顾问费’于自己的主席不是很奇怪吗？”
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“然而，《Sakmongkol AK47》并没有揭露收取50万美元贿款的人正是凯里！”
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凯里丑闻多
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5 {: E% p8 g& J+ Ltvb now,tvbnow,bttvb“可以想象，但阿尔卡特弊案爆发后，有人劝告凯里赶快离开以避开是次风暴，并教他告诉媒体‘要出国留学’、‘身体不佳’之类的敷衍理由。”
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博客网《Anak Omak》也爆出了凯里的许许多多贪污丑闻，大家可以去拜读。3 W4 I$ N. l5 R- ]# r, r

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“就因为他是前首相的女婿就可以飞赴国外留学逃避贪污指控？错了就是错！”

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The version of the story does NOT match the internal notes we have. Are we going to see similar statements coming from Khazanah, TM and Axiata?
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1 \. D' m1 N' g4 }os.tvboxnow.comFrom October 2004 to February 2006, Alcatel bribed government officials in Malaysia to obtain confidential information relating to a public tender that Alcatel ultimately won, the result of which yielded a telecommunications contract valued at approximately US$85 million. It was also reported that the TM employees who received bribes were "foreign officials" within the meaning of the US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act and "were in a significant position to influence the policy decisions Telekom Malaysia made." It added the Basel-based Alcatel Standard made significant lump-sum payments through US bank accounts to two consultants labeled "Malaysian Consultant A" and "Malaysian Consultant B", purportedly for market research. "Alcatel Standard paid US$200,000 to Malaysian Consultant A in 2005 for a series of 'market reports' describing conditions in the Malaysian telecommunications market. Similarly, Alcatel Standard paid US$500,000 to Malaysian Consultant B in 2005 for a 'strategic intelligence report'. "However, the work product these consultants prepared could not justify the size of Alcatel Standard's payments. In fact, Malaysian Consultant A and Malaysian Consultant B did not appear to render any legitimate services to Alcatel Malaysia in connection with these
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Unless we have a different set of laws which say what the two guys did wasn't a crime, we will actually see the statement at the beginning of this article.  It will be a committee hastily assembled to cover the backsides of many people. People from Khazanah, people from TM then, people from MOF even.
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7 t+ q; s6 r& M! `) A0 Rtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbSo, it is very perplexing, that we are only starting with an investigative committee. It would appear that what TM and Axiata are doing is to assemble a team to cover the misdeeds of some people. TM or Axiata shouldn't waste their time and money (whose money?) to whitewash this episode and should just make a police report about a crime having been committed.
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Telekom Malaysia Bhd (TM) has set up a board sub-committee to investigate the Alcatel Lucent SA (ALU) kickbacks scandal which implicates two Malaysian officials in a US$85 million (RM263.5 million) contract given out by the local telecoms giant. Regional mobile phone service provider Axiata Bhd has also promised to investigate the bribery case as it occurred in 2006 when it was a TM division known as Telekom Malaysia International (TMI). Both public-listed companies, which share a common shareholder —sovereign wealth fund Khazanah Nasional Berhad — announced their respective investigations in filings to Bursa Malaysia last night.
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Bursa Malaysia? Wasn't this the organization headed by a former Shell Legal Manager who has actually once said, that anything sanctioned by Khazanah should be treated as gospel truth? That those much admired denizens at Khazanah are the Malaysian version of The Untouchables? TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。' `4 f7 |1 J0 _; q8 H' ]

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Let's go beyond the obvious. Any decision on capex expenditures by any of the Khazanah owned companies must have been referred to Khazanah. Azman Mokhtar who swears by the various coloured manuals that Khazanah operates by, will never allow any capex expenditures passed without notice. He is after all an honorable man. He has brought a new culture of managing Khazanah. His style is cheese compared to chalk of previous stewards of Khazanah.
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' V, z5 O) ]  U( WIt's a new age Khazanah that acquires shares and sell down in the open market. It doesn't want to sell to PNB? Isn't that strategic? To me, what Khazanah is doing is also similar to the typical BUmiputera who gets shares and then cash out. Same sting operations. Khazanah is then as rotten as those Bumis who got shares and sold RM52 billion of the 54 which were issued to them under NEP. It's a new age Khazanah that is also debt ridden and issues sukuk and bonds here and there. 公仔箱論壇. R; d. _% N/ p- u; a, k: g
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As to CAPEX  spending especially if they are huge decisions on who to appoint as vendors must also be made within the full knowledge of Khazanah.
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When TM got the license to operate the 3G services, it carried out tender exercises to secure the best vendors. Vendors must have been evaluated in terms of acceptability, track record and technical reputability. Hence, when TM called for tenders to supply them with the equipment, many were invited including those with lesser track record such as Huawei of China. Well known players such as Erickson, Nokia were also invited. 2 D6 I+ U% M+ H) `

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- F0 v# @( g7 Q0 ]5 UIn the first phase of installing the 3G services Huawei of China appeared to be a favorite vendor. The appointment of Huawei as the vendor for the Klang Valley was pushed hard by several directors of TM.  It was almost accepted but for the tenacity of some people who insisted that Huawei lacked a track record.  The solution offered by Huawei was accepted by only one or two countries at that time. On the other hand the solutions offered by other well-known and tried vendors such as Nokia and Erickson were applied in many more countries. As a compromise, it was decided that Nokia would be appointed vendor for the Klang Valley and Huawei can be used to test its technical capabilities in peripheral areas such as Penang and Johor.
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1 Q- t( [; h7 z* J  y$ I6 ~os.tvboxnow.comTo recap: in phase one which is base period, Nokia and Huawei were the vendors.
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3 x% B- e6 `# q+ nWe come to the second phase. When time came for expanding the 3G services, following the more or less compromised approach at the first phase, the same protocols were followed. Huawei and Nokia and others with proven track records were invited to bid for tenders for the expansion of the 3G services.
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% r! l) R7 U5 ^* Y) g公仔箱論壇Read carefully this. When everyone of the solutions providers had been called, Azman Mokhtar received a gentle nudge from someone in MOF to " tolong Alcatel kalau boleh". This someone from MOF (remember during this time, MOF has MOF1 and MOF2) must have been a persuasive nudger; because Azman MOkhtar interpreted that tolong kalau boleh tolong as mesti tolong.
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  {3 U5 |$ y6 [+ X5 V  mtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbBut Azman Mohtar is an honorable man. He swears by the yellow book, green book and what books.
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龙王

The Untouchables at TM and Khazanah- Final Part.os.tvboxnow.com4 m& B( p2 t  f! ~  a7 K
Picture this scenario.
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It is now the second phase of providing the 3G services. Nokia and Huawei have performed well. The services were well taken up by consumers. It's time to expand. New tenders must be called. They are called. ; Y( v* h, |! u6 A# y" G' o& v5 F
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, H! ]) i% w4 X5 ?9 wos.tvboxnow.comThe tender committee deliberated on the prospective vendors to expand the services of 3G. The successful vendors in the First phase, Huawei and Nokia participated too. So did other established players. Probably 10-12 were shortlisted.
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: _% y7 C' a! M# d6 j' ros.tvboxnow.comNow here comes someone, admitting the name of Alcatel. Alcatel says we have the product. But it has no track record. Its product hasn't been tested for its technical integrity and robustness.  It didn't get a favorable verdict at the technical stage. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb! l) `  J4 U' H$ c; P

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Nevermind. We have been asked to help if we can. That means we have to. Just this time, we set aside the provisions in the colored books. The whispers from beyond the walls of Khazanah are more potent. So, some people insisted Alcatel be given a chance to participate. So it did. It won the contract as vendor to supply the 3G services for the rest of the country. The price was USD 85 million.
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" P' F+ n: U/ R# }! G$ BIt didn't go through such a robust and transparent procurement process, but was admitted in any case. A larger number of board members didn't see anything amiss at this manner of entry. There were whispers that Alcatel's entry has been endorsed right up to the corridors of MOF2. Even though, it was clear, such highhanded admission violated the rules and guidelines ensconced in the multicolored management manuals supplied by Khazanah. The High Priest at Khazanah sayeth- do, so it must be done. 公仔箱論壇" M& v+ r$ Q; R/ J- K' i

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Protestations by minority were easily defeated. The chairman of the tender board put his foot down insisting that Alcatel be considered. 8 N) S: b, {9 J. x

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I suppose now TM will grill the chairman of the tender board then. The two fall guys are said to be runners for some board members or to some senior management at TM. If they are runners, they receive instructions. We must go after them.
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By the way, I must salute Zamzairani for declaring that investigations into the conduct of TM will be an open book. That book will be much more respected if it leads to direct investigation by the police or MACC. I salute him further, if his statements were made independent of Khazanah's supervision. Hey Zam- did you get clearance from Amok? You mau mati kah? And lose the RM 1.5 million annual income?
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Move over to Indonesia. TM has an international arm, TMI. In Indonesia for example TM through its TMI operates it cellular services through ExCelMinIndo. It wanted to offer the same vendor for the Sumatran market. Since Alcatel has already been accepted as the vendor for peninsula Malaysia, why not appoint it as vendor for the Indon market? Senang kerja bukan? If it's good for Malaysia, it must also be good for Indonesian operations.
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Those people in Sumatra were asked repeatedly to accommodate the technical compatibility that comes with Alcatel. The CFO was asked to accept the appointment of Alcatel for the end user- Ex Celcom Indo by reporting that Alcatel offered the best in terms of financial acceptability.  He refused unless the people here in TM Malaysia request so in writing. 公仔箱論壇" ^( g% D3 _! E$ s# i

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The chief engineer there was asked to report that Alcatel satisfies all the technical requirements and its appointment will therefore be technically justified. . He refused too unless the request from the parent company in Malaysia was done in writing. tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb. f; ]3 ?8 N5 t7 x6 h8 l$ `
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In the end, to decide for the end user in Indonesia, TM tender board here approved the award to Alcatel.
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4 @! R4 N: s  n5 B* `- JWhat is the relevance of the story above? 公仔箱論壇) ~% d( e4 J7 X, k5 H
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The relevance lies in our ability to place what is happening now in its proper context. That context is a procuring regime which is far from what TM has pompously claimed. We have seen how, the procurement regime which consists of certain protocols was often violated to allow selected and preferred and that which has received whispered endorsement to be appointed vendor.
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All this setting up a committee is akin to the chisel making noises when the house is already completed. Pahat bising, rumah sudah siap. We the people are reading it more as a CYA ruse- Cover Your Ass ruse. Somebody other than the 2 guys has benefited from the deal. The surest way to get to the bottom of this affair is to get the two jokers to sing like canaries.
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It is also strange; the MACC is offering to verify the allegations. Will TM and Axiata or even MACC will then come do the Singapore thing of saying, the version of the story doesn't seem to match with our own internal notes?  4 a- m8 E+ t$ w( Q! t, ^& D, g
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6 J( B1 x: s- e; {! g9 YThe facts are these. Whatever was supplied by Alcatel didn't work and was scrapped. The question is, at that time, was Alcatel evaluated rigorously or was its entry into the business system of TM in Malaysia and also Indonesia, conducted under strict terms of reference of TM's robust and transparent procurement policy.公仔箱論壇; }) F9 V. }2 a3 B) p# H; I, A

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The way Alcatel was pushed through for the Sumatran market raised serious objections by certain people. It must have been very serious indeed to have led to the resignation of Dato Nurjazlan Mohamed who at that time was a board member of TM and also member to the board audit committee.
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gohtk

果然被我言中，野心这么大的人，怎么可能退出政坛，原来身有屎，这可是来得正是时候，对国政的打击不小，让人们看清国政这些大蛇，滥权，贪污，强奸，样样齐，这种狗改不了吃屎的习惯，一百年后还是一样的，臭种就是臭种，一老一少，强奸与贪污，看看当今政府这么处理这两件事。

kah9020

很多都是身有屎， 但是却不能把他们送入监牢！无法无天啊！

hongtan0

幸好还有自知之明，快快宣布自己不参选，快快躲起来，当一个缩头乌龟，看你以后还敢不敢举起马来剑，乌龟王八蛋。都说了，贪污就是巫统的招牌嘛，有哪一个巫统的领袖是没有贪污的，我看机率是0%。官越大，贪污的钱越多，所干的坏事也越多，看看你们的阿拉怎样收拾你们这群败类，狗养的。

yxx01

错了又如何。。还不是拍拍屁股就走人去风流快活啦公仔箱論壇9 C* w& F0 |% A- ]8 N
A 了这么多钱。，一点事也没有。