! l8 c8 a% l R# {# A) _' Y Pos.tvboxnow.com第二，誣告佔領人士偷竊物資。有佔領人士帶同物資撤離至麥花臣球場，卻被警方指控懷疑他們涉及盜竊，而有把物資運到金鐘時，更被警方以企圖盜竊罪名拘捕。問題是，既沒有人報案失竊，所謂的盜竊根本只是莫須有的罪名，而警方充公物資後，旋即把物資交食環署人員當垃圾處理，不單涉嫌違規處理證物，更可能干犯妨礙司法公正的罪行。執業大律師陸偉雄就指，前線警員或者法律常識不足，並不知悉警方是有責任證明有關物品是由盜竊得來才可以拘捕，「不過都冇物主，又點可以證明人哋係偷？」說穿了，有警察明顯是濫權。9 k, k" S& x% H# | t3 a' F, b' Q$ M
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第六，禁止市民逗留在旺角行人路。警方連日來只稱自己只是協助執達主任，然而同時又借機清場，更甚的，是連原來可以自由使用的行人路，都禁止市民停留，粗暴地推撞市民逼使他們離開。問題是，根據《基本法》及《人權法》，都明確保障市民的自由不被侵犯的，警方如此行徑是否違憲？而肆意侵犯人權，卻似乎沒有需要承擔責任。 4 o8 ~, N' G; ^tvb now,tvbnow,bttvbtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb Q, I+ ~& ?6 B5 A. k2 u* O6 c
第七，強行拉扯市民去馬路或拘捕。從不同片段可見，有青年本來在行人路上，竟被警察從後抛出或推出馬路去，好讓馬路上的其他警察把他們拘捕，如此「新穎」的執法方式，跟「砌生豬肉」又有何分別？tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb+ B' F& i n$ d
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第八，動輒指屬非法集會或非法集結。警方現時的慣性技倆，是指控現場市民正進行非法集會或非法集結，要求各人離開，否則會以武力作出拘捕。但非法集會或非法集結並不是警方「話係就係」，香港畢竟是法治之區，而兩者的定罪標準，以後者為例，是要三人或以上、集結時作出挑釁或侮辱言語，目的是破壞社會安寧，三個條件缺一不可；至於前者，單是「集會」的釋義，已列明是指「任何經召集或組織而舉行的聚集或集結」，同時「為社交、康樂、文化、學術、教育、宗教或慈善目的而進行的聚集或集結」則不屬此限，故旺角市民現時是自發前往，又如何是犯法呢？大抵如果犯法，警方必須拘捕梁振英，因為市民正是因響應他的呼籲而到旺角吧！ $ c) \5 U( b1 Y' WTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。' N( L& { l7 @; m
第九，違法使用警棍。不少市民再次在旺角被警方以警棍打到頭破血流，而根據警方的內部指引，警員除非面對生命受威脅的情況，以警棍擊打頭才會被視為合法使用武力，換言之，現時以警棍打頭，不單是非法，更屬致命武力，即屬殺人級別。至於指引要求警方須為對方安排醫療治理，更從來沒有警察曾理會遵守。 4 U+ Q$ _/ s3 s- x/ I4 y; _) a+ q& z7 A- @! F! g1 T 不信任警察情況勢再惡化 6 K8 W2 y2 m% z# }+ d% u2 K- O5 n n 1 K' j# O% ?+ v" T' D. W3 h$ |tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb第十，違規使用催淚水劑。警方出動了新武器催淚水劑，又指其武力跟胡椒噴劑同級，而根據《警察通例》第29章，要求警員所使用的武力，必須是為「達到目的」而須使用的「最低程度」，且一旦達到目的後，武力必須停止，同時「武力使用進階列表」列明，胡椒噴劑是在對方頑強抗拒時才可使用，即以實質行動抗拒人員之控制，但現時的情況，警方卻是動出催淚水劑作驅散，並不屬可使用的程度，但因資訊的不對稱，以及警方的強權之下，市民只能「硬食」。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。, J$ A6 _% Y7 R& E
2 D+ n$ y9 |+ ^; j. W2 C而其實，沒有列舉出的警方惡行尚有很多，或許警方而至梁振英，現時侃侃而談稱如果認為警方濫權，大家可作投訴，有關方面會按機制處理。而公眾必須深思的，是如此消極方式，以圖亡羊補牢，卻根本無補於事，因為被打的市民已經受了傷，而對警察的信任更同時失去，更甚的，是許SIR曾說的「是否真的想看到我們的子女遇到罪案或緊急事故時，因為不知應否向警察求助而感到迷茫？是否希望看到他們蔑視執法人員」的情況真的出現呢！- S3 \* o0 z& B( l
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本帖最後由 felicity2010 於 2014-11-27 01:50 PM 編輯 tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; e- P4 v1 U x( Y! H% l
3 C# G: F9 c8 T( a: ^4 Y3 C+ \' r) Tos.tvboxnow.com冷漠，不是無意見，而是一種取態／Richard Scotford . M' T; v4 W! e0 U- F8 @os.tvboxnow.com公仔箱論壇& a# H" j8 ]. v; ^
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Posting this picture turned out to be quite a contentious post. It received a lot of interest and shares given my small network. But this is indicative of the circumspect nature of the arrest and nothing to do with me. This is a valid topic so I’m gonna add more.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb g1 H8 ~, i% n5 w, m
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Firstly, if it cuts to close too the bone then good. I’m not telling you what to think, but I’m challenging you to seek your own truth. The information is out there and 10,000s people’s lives are being affected right across Hong Kong. 3 {6 f+ q9 |" M4 n6 ~os.tvboxnow.com 0 e5 M* Y A: J0 ros.tvboxnow.comLast night (Tuesday) I sat and watched the casualties coming from the frontline where the police were viciously attacking protesters. They don’t even pretend that they’re being charged anymore, they just hoist up the red flag and plough in. The casualty scene of the protesters was like something out of the Crimean War, with wounded lying on the sides of the road and being attended to by voluntary first aiders. The police NEVER provide any medical backup, they don’t give a shit as to what happens to the people they beat. # B+ q7 @1 g8 Y4 ios.tvboxnow.com 7 H6 I+ i8 ^8 E" {7 D2 V2 z: x: Uos.tvboxnow.comSo, the essence of posting THIS picture goes to whether I’m personally attacking someone for just doing their job and pushing it too far as they’ve got kids and friends and they’re generally nice people. , Z7 }9 G' T, R3 e公仔箱論壇os.tvboxnow.com9 U+ @2 [8 O& Y9 ^0 Q/ r1 M3 j5 }( [0 M$ c
Well, the same can be said of the people who were lying beaten from police last night. They also love their kids and are just trying to make a nice life for their family and network in HK. But, loving your friends, family and network is not an exceptional human trait, we all do it. It doesn’t define you as person over and above anyone else. So, that argument is moot. 3 ]3 U' F/ N' ~7 O; f8 N M7 G) g$ P. D3 k) hTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。So, what about the, just doing my job thing.Well this really is more salient and relevant. Police aren’t the only ones who have to make tough choices and sacrifices, that again is not an exceptional quality, What makes us exceptional is when we’re faced with a decision that has the potential to affect many people around us, we think it through and then beheld personally responsible for it by those it affects. The weak hide behind others or that it’s their job and they had no choice but to carry out orders.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。) F2 A) O3 P3 ?4 R
: Y' W {" n1 {9 u: dOn top of this, for some, powerful history moves into their lives and whether they like it or not their actions become magnified and subject to a lot more scrutiny than they’re normally used to.Certainly when history comes knocking, don’t go jumping in feet first and then bemoan that you’re being judged and you want to be a private person. In the case of Zulu Charger, he made himself known to the media in his SCMP article and in this case almost busts a vein to get to the front to take down Joshua Wong for highly suspect reasons.公仔箱論壇8 ?- E& m) f# i3 t9 N9 J7 J
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It’s not just me that’s making a big deal about this… this is all over twitter and social media, who are not shy to even name him. In the case of this arrest,it’s clear to all that have eyes on the situation at the time that it is the red hats who are causing the raucous. Even the bailiffs are focused on the red hats,not the students. Watch the video. If you don’t agree, that’s fine. We all make our own realities. - K: n& f S& N, S) Q ~9 |! g5 e+ kTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。7 c1 h# C. B/ S5 F& s9 C
So, the entire action by the police seems highly suspect to even the most untrained legal eye. In this case society has an absolute right to scrutinise it and if need be judge it in anyway they wish and at any time. For me, who has spent many hours at the front, it is indicative of the nature of the police in HK right now. They are blinded by their myopic intolerance of pro-democracy protesters and it is my intention that everyone should consider this regardless of whether they choose to ignore it. Police just rush in with no idea what’s happening and start taking down protestors and this is exactly what Zulu Charger is doing. No different from all the other videos we see of police taking down people violently, only to be released with no charge later. No professionalism in that, just police gone mad time and time again. People should be worried about this. All of these people,protesters and police love their families and are good to their mates.* J$ @* X6 R) Y& U7 X$ `; j' _
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0 ?" l* h0 i. e7 c4 `- f: Qos.tvboxnow.comBut my opinion is only small… fortunately this will go to court, and hopefully a court motivated by justice will give us a verdict on this arrest. And then what? Can we still realistically hold on to our views if the court deems no charges. I’m completely prepared to be wrong on this, likewise, those that find this topic challenging should also be prepared for me to be right. + O R5 \# o! T7 X7 B5 j- Ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvb公仔箱論壇. N' H. O [/ G' p$ k1 B$ W
After all , there are plenty of nice people that have fallen on the wrong side of history. It still doesn’t make them right cus they were nice guys! + q+ C z2 f$ q6 {6 t' jTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。# g& n5 b2 M j( c6 ~
Everyone living in Hong Kong is now being challenged, there is no escaping this, and when history plays out in front of you, we should not hide our heads in the sand and say, no don’t show me that because it’s too close to my world. : L, e1 o. M% Y8 utvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 9 N* d# s3 }* t8 yos.tvboxnow.com【文、圖來自作者 Facebook，題為編者所加】 / v b8 e v: f$ R0 m7 c& {公仔箱論壇 + ?4 h# M% _4 i9 e+ ztvb now,tvbnow,bttvb + Z+ ]. e' N8 l Q2 a! {os.tvboxnow.comos.tvboxnow.com1 S4 |$ f% M6 }# X% T/ t; L$ H
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一句「唔好打人呀」 女子被警大力扯落地 頭撞燈柱入院TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。) g# |3 O- g8 V5 ~4 e8 B
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昨晚的警民衝突中，警方多次使用過度武力對付佔領者，甚至連普通市民也不放過。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb; B* k" `3 L% t1 X& B6 c
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讀者黃小姐向本報表示，她晚上收工後途經旺角，其實無意參與任何示威或衝突，只是碰巧見到警民在港鐵站外衝突，於是站在後面位置圍觀。因為見到警察打人，她下意識叫了一句「唔好打人呀」，兩名警員就立即向她說「你講咩野呀！」，然後用力扯她。黃小姐形容，警員情緒極度激動，她一生人無見過如此面目猙獰和恐佈的表情，「完全是殺紅了眼」。3 S8 U* r0 C6 F, V* U4 w- F
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兩名警員大力扯她，令她失重心跌向地上，期間頭部大力撞向電燈柱，發出「砰」一聲，被扯跌的過程亦被TVB鏡頭拍下（按此看短片，約1:10起）。 ) G# o" b% S7 {: }) \* Ctvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 6 B9 J& U$ B; W* r# x8 s& r4 v* H3 Jtvb now,tvbnow,bttvb黃小姐指，幸好即時有一個老伯把她拉走，否則肯定會被捕。她後來感到頭部相當疼痛，擔心會有腦震盪，而因為憂慮廣華醫院會有衝突，於是去了瑪麗醫院治理。醫生建議她醫院一天觀察。公仔箱論壇3 |& c- U- Q& h9 K/ z4 N9 G C
7 }$ q& p# F/ P3 J$ h. f# Los.tvboxnow.com她批評警方完全失去理智，明明自己無示威無衝擊無犯法（當時站在行人路上），不明白警察為何要這樣襲擊她。9 d; k& D8 E( W+ y2 B
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