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作者: kingjames 時間: 2010-5-20 06:02 AM 標題: 飞侠对皇帝，这个话题该风淡云轻了
飞侠对皇帝，这个话题该风淡云轻了
PS：不看文章，一味夸科比的评论不用了，看了文章，一味批评LBJ的，也不用了！谢谢！
I think Lebron James is a phenomenal player. His mother Gloria deserves a special page in the biology text book for mothering such a fine specimen because James seems to add another page to Darwin's theory of evolution.
在我眼里，詹姆斯成为了一种现象。他似乎为达尔文的进化论添上了浓重的一笔，这源自于他的母亲。
The one thing that I truly could not withstand all this time is that how the NBA, David Stern, Nike, and ESPN (and that means the great John Hollinger) were so eager to place James as the best player of the sport so prematurely.
我一直无法理解的一件事情就是为什么NBA、斯特恩、NIKE、ESPN（特指霍林格）都那么迫切地把詹姆斯定义为最好的球员呢？
I even wrote an article stating that all the external doting of James will actually hinder his growth. I don't think there is anything particularly wrong with James himself. His work ethic, his competitive attitude is built for playing the highest level.
曾经我写过一篇文章，里面讲述了外界对詹姆斯过分的溺爱会阻碍他的成长。我觉得对詹姆斯本身来说，他不存在任何问题。他的运动天赋和求胜的欲望就是为最高水准的比赛而准备的。
Then again people are entitled to their own opinions so I can't try to take the ice cream cone away from one kid and give to the other kid who deserves it more.
但是每个人都有表达自己想法的权利，所以我不能从一个小孩的手上抢走蛋筒然后硬塞给另外一个小孩。
Up until now, Lebron James showed plenty of great highlight reels and stats to feed their fans to back him up as the best player. He now has won two regular season MVP awards and from the looks of it, he may be able to win the next five.
到目前位置，詹姆斯为他的球迷奉献了够多的精彩好球，这也满足了球迷们对他的最好球员的定义。他已经获得了2个常规赛MVP的头衔，照目前的情势发展，他很有可能会赢下接下去的5座。
His fans have stubbornly argued that the ring less James easily crushes Kobe Bryant's accolades solely on regular season accomplishments and future potential alone. I've seen plenty of attempts at this website trying to place James ahead of Jordan. Scary huh?
他的球迷固执地认为贬低科比，却一直在热衷于没有总冠军戒指的詹姆斯在常规赛的战绩和未来的潜力，在这个网站上，我看到了很多评论都觉得詹姆斯超越了MJ。太恐怖了！
Well here comes the crunching reality that the James fans finally cannot break away from. For 2 years in a row, James led his team through the regular season with the best record of those seasons. For 2 years in a row, he won the regular season MVP. For 2 years in a row, he entered the playoffs with home court advantage all the way. For 2 years in a row, he was widely believed as the best player in the best team with the best chances of winning a title.
但是现在摆在面前的是詹姆斯的球迷们不可回避的事实。连续2年，詹姆斯都带领他的球队获得了常规赛的最佳战绩。连续2年，他获得了常规赛MVP。连续2年，他的球队都拥有整个季后赛的主场优势。连续2年，他都被视作最好的球员，在最好的队伍，拥有获得总冠军的最佳机会。
He has not only failed to lead the Cavaliers to a Championship both years, but didn't even make out of the east twice already. 4-2 loss to the "aging, one and done" Celtics. Oh yeah the Cavaliers also had home court advantage.
然而，事实是他不止没有为骑士队获得一座总冠军，甚至连续2年都没能冲出东部。2-4输给年迈的凯尔特人队。对了，骑士队还是有主场优势的。
So what' happening to Kobe Bryant? Um, the same damn thing that's he's proven himself capable of last year. Winning as a leader of his team.
那科比又如何呢？嗯，该死的是，他在去年就为自己正名了。作为球队领袖，他给湖人队带回了总冠军奖杯。
So I'll point out some major factors that can blow this dumb excuse of a comparison to rest.
接下来，我会列举一些因素，这些都可以用来佐证，他们俩之间的比较真的可以歇歇了。
1. Best players are complete players.
1、最好的球员必须是全面的球员。
When you hear "complete" it doesn't mean triple doubles or just stacking up high PER (seriously, Hollinger you could not be more myopic). Sure they are awesome achievements but we just saw James making a triple double against the Celtics in game 6 with 9 costly TOs. I'm talking about having a fully packed arsenal.
当你听到全面这个名词时，它不意味着你必须获得三双，也不表示你有很高的PER（不得不说，霍林格你的目光真的很短浅）。当然它们的确可以体现一些问题，但是我们看到的是，在与凯尔特人的第六场比赛中，詹姆斯在获得三双的同时付出了9次失误的代价。所以我的观点是看待问题要全面不能孤立。
When Kobe was suffering through injuries against the Thunders, he expanded his facilitating role to properly utilize his team by attracting the opposition towards him then opening his teammates for close range high accuracy passes. James puts up high assists but he usually dishes the rock through heavy traffic across long distance which the Celtics blanketed with their defense.
在科比带伤对阵雷霆的系列赛中，他通过吸引包夹，然后通过近距离高效率的传球帮助队友打开比赛的局面，这就是他在系列赛中扮演的角色。詹姆斯的助攻很多，但是通常情况下，他都是趁着凯尔特人的防守出现漏洞，通过长传到前场让队友得分。（也就是说詹姆斯的助攻大都来自于骑士队的快攻）
Bryant has been a career FT shooter. James has not been truly reliable with his FT in crunch time.
科比整个职业生涯的罚球命中率都很稳定。而詹姆斯在关键时刻的罚球却总是不让人放心。
Bryant has Jordan's signature mid range jump shooter, albeit which he abuses too much sometimes, but nonetheless extremely skilled at along with the fade away shots. His 3 point shooting is also better than James.
科比拥有一手乔丹标志性的中距离跳投，虽然可能有时候这招他用得太多，但是他很擅长这招和后仰跳投。他的3分球也比詹姆斯要好。
Because of Bryant's offensive adaptability, he can make shots far away from the paint in suffocating choke holds. This usually ends in either incredibly difficult shots made or another ball hogging miss but it is still an available option for Bryant. The Celtics tried and decently succeeded in taking the paint away from James, significantly limiting his success range for scoring. Many journalists say James should just attack the basket every single time. In other words, he's usually better at one thing so just stick with it and abandon that other thing he's not good at.
由于科比的进攻适应性很强，在比赛的关键时刻，他可以远离油漆区做出远投。不管高难度的最后一投是不是能够帮助球队赢得比赛，对湖人队来说，科比都会成为他们最合适的选择。凯尔特人队很好地控制了詹姆斯的内线得分，这在很大程度上限制了詹姆斯的得分区域。很多记者都说，詹姆斯每一次进攻都该直接攻击篮筐。换言之，他只是比较擅长一种攻击手段，所以只要锁住这一点，让他用自己不擅长的得分方式去得分即可。
Well, Bryant's attack towards the paint is no slouch either. Sure people say he can't dunk over people anymore but he polished his inside game in a different more deadly direction. He sought out Hakeem Olajuwan and improved his post-up play with only one day tutoring session. Bryant post-upped plenty of times early this season and in the playoffs he has skillfully evaded the inside defense for easy lay ups. James muscles his way to the basket which is highly effective as well but he does not utilize his size and strength with both his feet down on the floor trying to open up more steady passes to his teammates.
对科比来说，在油漆区得分也不是他所擅长的。所以，大家都会说科比已经不再能隔人暴扣了，但是他把自己的内线弱点转化为另一致命的得分方向。仅用了一天一堂课的时间，他向奥拉朱旺学习，提高了自己低位单打的能力。在这个赛季初期，科比在很长一段时间了都使用了低位单打，而在季后赛他总是可以娴熟地躲过内线防守，轻易地上篮得分。詹姆斯利用他的身体为他冲向篮筐开道，当然这也很有效率，但是当他起跳双脚落地的时候，他不懂得利用他的身体和力量助攻给他的队友得分。
Here's the bottom line. Bryant has no real weaknesses. He may be slightly less efficient at certain skills but he knows how to do everything. Which is why he stayed effective with so many injuries this season and found ways to help his team win. So he may be "off" sometimes when he's not scoring in bulk but he is still making things happen. This poses a nightmare for coaches and the defending opposing team because he will switch strategy to make up for any short comings.
还有最后一点。科比没有真正意义上的弱点。可能有些得分方式他并不是很有效率，但是他却知道如何去做每一件事情。这也就是为什么带伤作战的他依旧保持着高效率，同时可以帮助他的球队赢球。可能有时候他自己不能连续得分，但是他依旧让球场的态势朝着他想要的方向发展。正因为科比总是能想方设法地弥补他的缺点，他也成为了对方教练和球队的梦魇。
James rarely has an off night thanks to his freakish talent and highly durable body. However if any of his major weapons does rust up for a night, his options diminish rather quickly.
多亏了他超乎常人的天赋和身板，詹姆斯的比赛很少会罢工。但是一旦他的一项重要得分技能被限制，那他的状态就会很快下滑。
2. Best Players Are Closers
2、最好的球员都是比赛的终结者
Since when did being the best closer and the best player become mutually exclusive? This season he made what, 6-7 game winners? That shot over Wade is one for the ages.
从什么时候起，最好的终结者和最好的球员开始相互排斥？这个赛季他的7战6胜么？在韦德头上的最后一投仅仅是这些年来的一个缩影。
Game winners usually comes down to jump shots than dunks or lay ups. Like I said, James's jump shot is already unreliable during the first 46 minutes. It's much harder to be accurate during the final 2 minutes. The whole world already agrees that they'll give the ball to Kobe for the last shot.
比赛的致胜分往往来自跳投而不是扣篮或者上篮。就像我之前所说的，在比赛的前46分钟里，詹姆斯的跳投都尚且不稳定，遑论比赛的最后2分钟，那将更艰难。相信全世界都会选择科比来做最后一投。
If not jump shots, crunch time FTs are also crucial and we all know end of games often boil down to FT contests. James never got past 80% for his FTs for his entire career. Would you want him taking FTs at the end? Pressure situations are when the truly the best of the best will clear out all distractions and make big plays. Bryant is the best closer in the business.
如果不是跳投，那关键时刻的罚篮同样很重要，我们都知道比赛的最后时刻通常都会成为罚球比赛。在整个职业生涯，詹姆斯的罚球命中率从来没有超过80%。你会希望他来执行最后的罚球吗？真正优秀的球员往往是在最有压力的时候，排除万难，能够做出超级一投。科比在这场较量中是最好的终结者。
3. Best Players are Long Lasting Players
3、最好的球员是能长期保持状态的球员
Given the short span of an athlete's prime years, a player has to think in the long term when trying to build legacies. Bryant is 31 going 32. He has logged more miles than Jordan. However his fundamentals are so solid that he has yet to show big diminish in his game in spite of his more vulnerable responses to injuries.
回顾一个运动员辉煌的年代，必须考虑到那个球员创建传奇的一长段时间。科比已经31岁，而且很快将迎来他32岁的生日。他所跑过的路已经超越了乔丹。尽管由于伤病，他的表现有所下滑，但是他所奠定的基石依旧很牢固。
Bryant has been following Jordan's successfully proven blue print by perfecting the fade aways, footwork, and improving his post-up game during every given off-season opportunities he's gotten. He even practiced martial arts to hone his reflexes so that he could adapt more quickly during basketball games.
科比延续着乔丹的成功，完美展示了后仰跳投，梦幻的脚步，同时利用休赛季的机会，提高了低位单打的能力。甚至为了能更快地适应比赛，他特意练习了柔术来提高自己的反应能力。
James has picked up Bryant's defensive tenacity after the Olympics and practiced his jump shots to improve. However, his fundamentals are still visibly lacking at this point. He's 25 years old. He's young but not THAT young. 5 years can go by pretty darn quickly. With 270+ lbs pounding on his knees, he will have to improve all of his weaknesses as quickly as possible before he slows down.
在奥运会结束后，詹姆斯学习了科比的强硬防守同时也加强了他的跳投。但是，他的基础使得他在这一点上略显薄弱。他才25岁。他还年轻但是也已经没有那么年轻了。5年的时间可能会过得很糟糕。他的膝盖承受了270+磅，在他的速度慢下来以前，他必须尽快地弥补自己的弱点。
4. Best Players are Obsessive, Egomaniacal, and Evil
4、最好的球员应该是过分的、自大的、令人讨厌的
The words may speak some negative air but they indeed speak great truth. Bryant knew that from the moment he entered the league, father time started eating away his opportunities for greatness and he had to be mean and unforgiving with effort and killer instinct. So he scolded Shaq for his lazy diet and conditioning. He does not smile or joke at playoff times. He privately broods and scoffs at all criticism with repugnance but uses as motivation. The very reasons that almost all haters come to hate him for has fueled him even further.
这些词听起来都是贬义的，但是他们却包含了真理。从科比踏入联盟的那一刻起，他就已经明白了这一道理。时间老人会一点点地蚕食他变成伟大球员的机会，他必须化身为一个杀手，带上无情的面具。所以他指责鲨鱼对食物不知节制。在季后赛，他从不微笑，从不开玩笑。面对外界的恶语，他总是保持沉默或者带点嘲笑的意味，而事实上这些都将成为他的动力。那些被用作憎恨他的理由其实大都化为了燃料，让他像机器一样运转得更快。
Ironically, almost all competitive winners in the past whom Bryant admires (Bird, Kareem, Russell, Magic, Jordan) were never nice but stomped all over their detractors and opponents. The haters may think Bryant's ego is an alien attitude unfitting of the league but it is very much original and a long forgotten code of honor among warriors which today's naive fans and weakling young players are unaware of.
出人意料的是，在历史上赢家们包括科比所崇拜的球星们（像伯德、拉什、拉塞尔、魔术师、乔丹）对人都不友好，反而对诋毁者和对手都没有好脸色。也许，那些讨厌科比的人会觉得科比的自我是一种异类的态度，在联盟里是容不下的。但是事实上这是最原始的，在勇士当中，这是荣耀的标志，只是被遗忘了很久，以至于现在的年轻的球迷和球员都不能意识到这一点。
The so-called competitive but friendly King James has lacked the killer instinct which he desperately needed to get past the 2nd round of the eastern conference 2 years in a row. The dancing, the phantom photo shooting, and the trick shooting perhaps made him too relaxed.
因此名义上好胜其实友善的小皇帝詹姆斯缺少的就是杀手本质，否则他也不至于连续2年都不能踏上总决赛的舞台。手舞足蹈、虚幻的投篮照片以及耍诡计的投篮或许都让他太过放松。
Legacies are built on playoff records and ultimately beating everyone. You've seen the Magic and Jordan highlights. They're mostly or entirely playoff clips. Bryant is widely known to enter a different mode when he goes into the playoffs. Why do you think he's called the assassin? Why do you think he makes that scowl with the lower jaw? He will not allow anyone to get in his way.
传奇是要靠季后赛的记录来书写的，最终幻化为打败所有人。你们肯定都看过魔术师和乔丹的表演。他们几乎是季后赛的常客。而众所周知的是，每当季后赛开始，科比就像换了一个人一样。你觉得科比为什么会被称作刺客呢？那为什么科比又总会面露不愠之色呢？因为他不允许任何人踏入他的轨道。
James somehow consistently dialed down on playoff time in spite of his impressive playoff stats. I was really sad to see James pretty much giving up during game 5 and 6 against the Celtics. Something was wrong. He definitely did not mentally prepare himself for the big stage.
尽管詹姆斯的季后赛数据让人印象深刻，但是他或许也希望时光能够倒流。在对阵凯尔特人G5和G6的比赛中，我看到詹姆斯的放弃真的很失望。肯定有地方出了错。在精神上，他尚且没有为那个大舞台做好充分的准备。
-Conclusion-
结论
So there you have it. Kobe Bryant is the best player on the planet, RIGHT NOW. This was never a rivalry. This was a construction and passage of generation. Bryant and James are 7 years apart in age and experience. They play widely different styles. A comparison was impossible to begin with.
所以现在你该了解了。目前，科比是这个星球上最好的球员。压根都不存在竞争。这只是传承篇章中的一页。在年龄和经验上，科比和詹姆斯有7年的差距。他们打球的风格也完全不同。因此比较根本无从谈起。
Bryant has had only one true rival his whole life: Michael Jordan. He is on his way to catch up to Jordan. Bryant's ego was an innate existence that has made him focus on honing his skills and mentality towards building a legacy stamped by rings. His other accomplishments just happened during his pursuit.
在科比的生命中，他只有一个对手，那就是迈克尔•乔丹。他在用他自己的方式去追赶乔丹。科比的自我是内在的，这使得他著重于自己的技能，思想上集中于夺得更多的戒指。他的其他成绩只是恰好发生在他追逐的过程中而已。
If James truly wishes to be the best, he needs to shift his attention elsewhere. The ego he currently posses is a more of a by product from his cronies and marketing bubbles. If he truly cared more about the rings, the free agency talks, the college recruiting acts, the no hand shaking, the camera confiscations would have been irrelevant to him.
如果詹姆斯真的希望能够成为最好的，他必须转移自己的注意力。他现在有拥有的更多的只是从他的朋友和商业泡沫中所得到的副产品。如果他真的在意总冠军戒指，那么从现在起，自由球员的交易、学校招收计划、没有握手之类的交流、相机的没收（后两项应该就是指媒体开始不屑他）这些都与他无关。
I honestly don't know why he seemed to not care during the Celtics games and in his post game speeches. He may have done it on purpose. Sure Bryant sent a message 3 years ago by refusing to shoot during a 4th quarter playoff game but he was truly surrounded by terrible teammates. The Cavaliers gave James what he wanted and he openly admitted that he's got better teammates and a great chance to win a championship. He performed better than everyone and his team proved they could play better than anyone. James squandered the opportunity away.
老实说，在与凯尔特人的比赛结束后，他的发言中，我不知道为什么他丝毫不在乎。或许他是故意为之。在3年前的季后赛第四节，诚然，科比也曾拒绝出手，那是因为他的队友实在太糟糕。骑士队给予了詹姆斯想要的一切，他也曾公开承认他拥有了更好的队友，会有很大的机会获得总冠军。他比所有人表现得都出色，他的球队也证明了他们可以比任何人都优秀。是詹姆斯自己放走了机会。
So to dear James fans, you have run out of ammunition. Right now Lebron James is an incomplete, best regular season MVP. John Hollinger certainly didn't waste time by diverting the blame towards the rest of the Cavaliers and I'm sure many of you will follow suit by hating on the others including Mike Brown.
所以，詹姆斯的球迷们啊，你们已经无力反驳了。现在LBJ还是一个不称职的常规赛MVP。霍林格肯定会把矛头指向骑士队的其他球员，而我也可以肯定，你们中的很多人都会跟随他谴责其他人包括布朗教练。
But c'mon really, Brown won a Coach of the Year award, James won 2 MVPs, and the team got 2 best records and armed with better players. The majority of the Eastern North America voted the Cavaliers to win it all. All James had to do, as the best player (which he isn't) was to lead them.
但是不得不说的事实是，布朗获得了年度最佳教练，詹姆斯蝉联常规赛MVP，在更好的球员的加入下，球队2次获得常规赛最佳战绩。几乎大部分的东北区的球迷觉得骑士队可以赢下所有的一切。作为一个最好的球员（事实上他还不是），詹姆斯所要做的该是领导他们。
At the same court against the same (almost the same) team in 2008, Bryant stayed on the floor and frantically attacked back until the clock ran out and his team lost by 4 times the point deficit which the Cavaliers lost this year in 2010 game 6. He knew his team was doomed but he never gave up and never surrendered. If James doesn't want to learn from the past greats then he needs to learn from Bryant.
在2008年，同样的场地同样的队伍（几乎一样），科比一直待在场上，他在努力回击直到时间耗尽。而他的球队所输的分数是骑士队G6所输分数的4倍。尽管，他知道他的球队这场失利是注定的，但是他从未放弃，从未屈服。如果詹姆斯不想像前辈们学习，那么他需要向科比学习。
So he needs to come back and do better. These are everything Kobe Bryant has done and still continues to do. What goes on in regular season gets lost in memory. I hope you'll all understand that the best player is the one holding the championship trophy along with the FINALS MVP award after making playoff winning plays.
所以他要回归，而且要做得更好。这些事情科比都已经完成，而且他还在继续。必须要忘记常规赛所发生的一切。我希望你们都必须明白，最好的球员是在赢得季后赛比赛的同时，能够带走总冠军荣誉和总决赛MVP的人。
I'm sorry that James's elbow was hurting. Bryant has been playing with one leg and nine fingers. Which is harder to do in your opinion?
詹姆斯的手肘受伤了，我很遗憾。科比却是带着一条腿和9根手指在作战。你觉得谁会更困难些？
At some point, this argument will resurface. Unfortunately by then, it will be more of a passing the torch act similar to 1991 when Jordan took over from Magic. If you wanted to see James become the best, this may have been the best chance.
当然，这个话题以后会重新浮上水面。不幸的是，到那时，他与科比的比较将更趋近于火炬的传递，就像是1991年乔丹接过魔术师的衣钵一样。（言外之意是LBJ在科比没有退役之前，难以超越科比）。如果你们希望詹姆斯成为最好的球员，现在是最好的机会。（因为詹姆斯碰到了困境，如果他有所调整，一切都不是问题。）
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