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作者: oopa    時間: 2014-7-20 06:15 AM     標題: 马航M17是被谁打下来的?

马拉西亚航空公司MH17航班在乌克兰东部靠近俄罗斯边境地区被导航击落,当事各方相互指责对方是凶手,真相如何? 目前,被公开或者暗地里指责的凶手包括:
/ T: n: a- D  k$ P" Ros.tvboxnow.com1、乌东部亲俄武装
7 F. H/ r, `3 a5 l; [% w3 l2、乌克兰政府军
  `6 V2 t5 ^% u3、俄罗斯* C8 U; d# ]3 m# O8 y! f3 \' ]
4、美国和北约tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb* Z6 W7 `/ |0 q0 r2 k# D
5.  车臣或阿布沙耶夫恐怖分子6 s  ~' Y0 c8 w. b+ ?# w* O
我们从动机、能力、误伤可能性3个方面来分析。os.tvboxnow.com9 B! C* q* I  y; D) n$ A% O$ Z/ \
1、乌东部亲俄武装os.tvboxnow.com& o. a" m) v3 x! H# a. Q6 ~
  动机:90%。亲俄武装没有制空权,一直用火炮导弹等袭击无政府军飞机,已先后击落乌政府军数架直升机、运输机TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。& ?& H/ Y) l; s6 X
  能力:30%。亲俄武装并没有大型武器,而马航MH17的飞行高度为一万米,普通导弹无法将其击落。但不能完全排除俄罗斯为其输送大杀伤力武器的可能。
1 v2 q% L, C( f. o4 I公仔箱論壇  误伤可能性:90%。亲俄武装装备和人员素质良莠不齐,将客机误认为是战斗机或者武装运输机的可能性较高。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。+ T9 p% q( n6 d7 M  ]' `1 ~. K9 G% j

; p( b9 {8 `5 K# N% A  2、乌克兰政府军tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb$ B3 H" Q- c; P+ g( p
  动机:30%。乌政府军在冲突地区拥有绝对的制空权,该空域的武装飞行器基本上都属于乌克兰政府军所有,因此,乌政府军并没有进行防空部署甚至开火的必要性。os.tvboxnow.com- a) L: w* d* Q
  能力:70%,乌政府军拥有俄制Muk防空导弹,完全具备精确命中任何民航飞机的可能性。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。1 `* m  Y  w# B* J3 S
  误伤可能性:50%,乌政府军有相对完善的防空体系和民航体系,应能清晰判断其上空的飞机是否民航飞机,但由于始发地为冲突地区,不排除信息失灵导致误判。' I1 f% H) M; h
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  3、俄罗斯
4 l8 @/ F- g, L  K2 z3 ltvb now,tvbnow,bttvb  动机:50%。俄罗斯一直否认自己派军队或者以其他方式支持乌亲俄武装,因此,应无理由公开介入战事。但据西方媒体的报道,实际上有少量的俄罗斯正规军进入乌克兰东部,并且此前乌克兰政府军一枚炮弹误入俄罗斯境内,造成一人死亡,俄罗斯也公开声称要报复。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb- U& T- r" o: i) U
  能力:90%。俄罗斯的防空导弹完全覆盖冲突地区,要击落任何飞机均是轻而易举的事。
" M9 f# `; R0 b# W7 [' W5 B公仔箱論壇  误伤可能性:30%。俄罗斯拥有世界上最先进的武器系统和训练有素的军队,判断目标的能力非常强,误伤可能性较低。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。0 i* |+ R8 |2 q. L1 o# L
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  4、美国和北约
2 `$ z7 \1 F0 ?$ H  动机:10%。美国和北约一直没有武力介入该地区,但有外交上、经济上对乌克兰政府的支持,以及对俄罗斯的支持。os.tvboxnow.com6 V% B* |# p$ g7 M
  能力:70%。美国和北约在该地区并没有直接的武装力量,击落客机使用的武器也是俄制Buk导弹,但美国和北约在附近地区也有大量的兵力。
' |$ \* T1 S8 x, V8 W) M4 \tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb  误伤可能性:10%。美国的卫星、预警机、民航系统等一直是世界最先进的,误伤可能性较低。TVBNOW 含有熱門話題,最新最快電視,軟體,遊戲,電影,動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。! l! ^- @- R+ D8 t7 j

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作者: A88503B4ABS    時間: 2014-7-20 08:30 AM

大多數人都會選1把 因為可能性比較大
作者: A88503B4ABS    時間: 2014-7-20 08:31 AM

也都是電視新聞都有報導電話內容 才知道的把
作者: MeCool2    時間: 2014-7-20 01:21 PM

親俄武裝領袖好像在網上說, 在事發時打落1架軍機, 應該是擺烏龍打錯吧
作者: Pedestrian_A    時間: 2014-7-20 03:22 PM

It's too early to tell...
作者: 御手洗    時間: 2014-7-20 03:45 PM

應該是俄羅斯吧...2 Q8 w. c0 T* v* J) P! z
個人意見
作者: jackspchong    時間: 2014-7-20 05:23 PM

應該是親俄武裝, 個人意見..
作者: milito    時間: 2014-7-20 06:16 PM

烏克蘭機會較大.
作者: rn.easy    時間: 2014-7-20 07:33 PM

其实现在发展方向最符合的是美国利益
- F; T/ u9 K! c公仔箱論壇财政捉襟见肘的美国一直希望 欧洲加大对俄制裁力度,这事等于又点了把火,
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其他国家基本都不符合利益纠葛的,另外就是亲俄排误操作的可能性机会不大的。% ]2 o5 h$ b# P( z2 b+ r" o. k
纯个人意见
作者: gghjkl    時間: 2014-7-20 10:08 PM

就是蘇聯打的,他們不都是蘇俄人嗎??
作者: etlaia    時間: 2014-7-20 11:17 PM

1、乌东部亲俄武装
作者: Azon    時間: 2014-7-20 11:41 PM

我覺得系烏克蘭親俄武裝
作者: 547974522    時間: 2014-7-21 12:22 AM

我覺得是習大大叫普京打下來的
作者: crono112    時間: 2014-7-21 01:25 AM

烏克蘭機會較大,擺烏龍打錯吧
作者: Danny4361    時間: 2014-7-21 07:04 AM

該死的凶手,打飛機回家打吧;不要亂擺烏龍打民航機。( z9 k4 m+ Y' N$ @+ ^
把他打下無間煉獄.......。
作者: sunow    時間: 2014-7-21 04:30 PM

Should be 1.
作者: 1050112    時間: 2014-7-22 06:32 AM

我觉得是美国 各人意见
作者: momoko_cho    時間: 2014-7-22 11:13 AM

我覺得是俄羅斯多了
作者: oopa    時間: 2014-7-22 06:24 PM

大部分證據顯示是乌东部亲俄武装...
作者: donald_999    時間: 2014-7-22 09:16 PM

乌东部亲俄武装,现场证据已经被打扫干净,明显做贼心虚
作者: wjllq    時間: 2014-7-23 10:33 AM

是外星人干的,外星人跟马航有仇
作者: durayoung    時間: 2014-7-23 11:06 AM

All fingers are pointing to 1, I can't see why it's not them? they are very suspicious
作者: h810185    時間: 2014-7-23 11:23 AM

看來看去都是俄羅斯
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作者: wilsonlaw0    時間: 2014-7-24 12:51 PM

在烏克蘭被擊落, 烏克蘭機率較大
作者: kenl8888    時間: 2014-7-24 09:55 PM

Like the MH370 incident, its a tactic by USA to pressure Europe to put more sanctions on Russia. USA wants both Russia and China to pay for setting up BRICS, which will demote the role of the US dollar in the world's financial market. Its an election year and they dont want their soldiers involved so they are using Ukraine to stir up trouble for Russia; In the Pacific region, they are using Japan, Vietnam and Philipines to cause trouble for China. They just print money and USA has admitted they gave US 5 billion to the current Ukraine Govt to oust the previous elected government. Wonder how much they paid to the trouble makers in Vietnam and Philipines ? Just hope the Taiwanese did not take money from them..
作者: kenl8888    時間: 2014-7-24 10:01 PM

this what happened to MH370 :公仔箱論壇5 g/ g% w$ W9 j" v) F- D
During the American withdraw from Afghanistan, one of their command and control system used for controlling the drones operation, was hijacked by the Taliban’s when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taliban’s ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014. The Taliban’s want is money for the system from the Russian or the Chinese. The Russian’s are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system’s technology. The Chinese goal is to master the technology behind the command and control system, then, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it. Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile, American covert intelligence, with the assistance of Israeli intelligence together, determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all, the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American military will not hijack or harm civilian commercial aircraft, so MH 370 is the perfect carrier. There were 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 “Iranians” with stolen passports worked in tandem among them. When MH 370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily. During AWAC operations activity in the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft and Airbus aircraft are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing commercial aircraft could be remote controlled by FAA /ATC ground control towers. The same remote control system used to control the pilot less spy aircraft and drones. The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course, and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai, and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react. The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anabas, South India and then landed at Maldives some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refueled and continued its flight to Garcia Diego, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen by achieving a temporary altitude to 45,000. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot, but first diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea, while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian’s are diversion distracter. The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists. One does not like to think of officials or leaders as committing evil covert events or to do things to cover up a “mess.” They operate under the premise called “The burden of leadership” meaning, the end justifies the means. The few inside the circle know the truth, those outside the circle know a little bit, but if the majority is confused then the objective has been achieved in order to stabilize the insanity of world events. This has been the course of human history from the get go and if you are fortunate to shoot pool with certain spooks, you are privy to the inner circle. Hard to believe it, right? That’s the goal. During the American withdraw from Afghanistan, one of their command and control system used for controlling the drones operation, was hijacked by the Taliban’s when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Taliban’s ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014. The Taliban’s want is money for the system from the Russian or the Chinese. The Russian’s are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system’s technology. The Chinese goal is to master the technology behind the command and control system, then, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it. Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile, American covert intelligence, with the assistance of Israeli intelligence together, determined to intercept and recapture the cargo. The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all, the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American military will not hijack or harm civilian commercial aircraft, so MH 370 is the perfect carrier. There were 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 “Iranians” with stolen passports worked in tandem among them. When MH 370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily. During AWAC operations activity in the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft and Airbus aircraft are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing commercial aircraft could be remote controlled by FAA /ATC ground control towers. The same remote control system used to control the pilot less spy aircraft and drones. The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course, and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite. The Malaysian, Thai, and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react. The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anabas, South India and then landed at Maldives some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refueled and continued its flight to Garcia Diego, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen by achieving a temporary altitude to 45,000. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot, but first diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea, while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian’s are diversion distracter. The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists. One does not like to think of officials or leaders as committing evil covert events or to do things to cover up a “mess.” They operate under the premise called “The burden of leadership” meaning, the end justifies the means. The few inside the circle know the truth, those outside the circle know a little bit, but if the majority is confused then the objective has been achieved in order to stabilize the insanity of world events. This has been the course of human history from the get go and if you are fortunate to shoot pool with certain spooks, you are privy to the inner circle. Hard to believe it, right? That’s the goal.
作者: eblisxp    時間: 2014-7-25 10:02 PM

烏克蘭可能性大點
作者: kingtang2008    時間: 2014-7-27 11:28 PM

是被oopa擊落的。信我,一定係。。。好明顯賊喊捉賊啦。
作者: joeb66    時間: 2014-7-28 10:17 AM

乌东部亲俄武装,擺烏龍打錯
作者: 隐形杀手    時間: 2014-7-28 04:25 PM

这个肯定是俄罗斯搞的啦
作者: 小行星    時間: 2014-8-1 12:39 PM

招谁惹谁了啊,真是,抓到枪毙




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