A New govt idea that INVOLVES YOUR HEALTH AND POCKET公仔箱論壇( I0 \- R# q# Y# `% n! }& w' [
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EVERY ONE IS GOING TO BE SUCKED DRY公仔箱論壇* `0 _/ |0 u! o1 y
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They have been milking Malay-sia dry through EPF, Petronas, Sime Darby, CIMB, Magnum and 3+1D etc etc etc... Now another new scheme to rake in even more!!!$ h. E& g% v7 b' a2 I+ ?
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This is real. We've had confirmation from president of PMPA (private medical practitioners Association) on this proposed scheme. A public Forum is being held chaired by MB of Selangor at Sunflower Room , Global Business and Convention Centre 8, Jalan 19/1, Section 19 Petaling Jaya on 12th Feb 2012. & G/ w% ^0 U5 p! V# w' X: o, j. H公仔箱論壇) G; e3 g+ q& z, p& M
Friends, 3 a) K' h z# k5 I9 R q+ _We are launching our 1Care Nak Tak Nak campaign. Please give your support byTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。5 i4 l9 y2 t" g& [( K; q4 \# e0 _) `
1. Attending the public forum ' x( p. g) V- @0 }* C2 VTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 2. Spreading the word to encourage your family and friends to attend too. * P H) {, E* k; D0 j9 k公仔箱論壇os.tvboxnow.com! p F8 ]6 V3 t+ \, q) B1 r1 [
The Public Forum will be held at 4pm on 12th Feb 2012, at the Global Business and Convention Center, PJ sect 19, see map attached. : ]+ i8 p, l1 N! C kTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 3 @& A. R3 O, w5 N9 q$ N QTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Please spread the word. - k. J) ^& {+ U! N. H8 U$ Bos.tvboxnow.com ( c N {8 A- ZDr SC NgTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。" y4 f* g! v; U( e
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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:23:11 +0800os.tvboxnow.com9 H- Y8 l9 F6 |" o
Subject: Fwd: Fw: The VERY Scary future? # n- Z! b, P/ Htvb now,tvbnow,bttvb& N# [- i6 M6 d6 i
Salient points - 1CareTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。, D- [; `. l' n, I# C1 z
1. The government plans to introduce a new healthcare system called 1-Care. It includes an insurance system to fund for healthcare. * K$ F' H0 X$ [2 K ]6 {$ Z0 T2 t3 y2. The National Healthcare Financing Authority will be in charge of 1Care - and it is likely to be turned into a GLC. 3 K# p. s8 j7 F* R $ z6 k6 t7 {. }4 M- c6 X: D3. Based on available information, every household will be made to pay up to 9.4% of gross household income for social health insurance. The payers will be the individual, the employer and the government via taxes, exact proportion still being worked out) 9 e- }0 N' s/ F1 ]/ R% ~# X' A3 K- ztvb now,tvbnow,bttvb8 p5 ~1 U# j6 [4 G% M
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4. There shall be no choice. Everyone has to pay. There is no opting out. We have to pay upfront. It will no longer be fee-for-service; it is fee-before- service.5 s0 m% A- J' ^2 P& u( N: I/ |/ N
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5. There has been no information on exactly how this payment will have to be made or how the government will collect from self-employed people. , A z3 ?0 d+ Z" ?9 ?5 e: Z* c+ _公仔箱論壇公仔箱論壇9 l j# W, p$ Q% H7 N
6. The government will be expected to contribute to the insurance premiums of government pensioners, civil servants and five dependants.tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb, m6 U/ ^# A" d( Q" ~
2 |* n d& T t2 UTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。7. But the problem is: 1Care does not cover all your medical expenses. Only for a prescribed basic list of what "you can have" healthcare items. Anything more than basic you will have to pay your own.2 o' O- K5 M M7 j6 G+ y5 k: \
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8. Your long-serving independent family doctor will have to join the system or will not be allowed to see you under the 1Care scheme. The robust, cost- effective independent clinics serving the country will be replaced by 1Care clinics./ Q6 }; G4 ~& T' S& `& O% Z9 v
9. You cannot pick your own doctor. 1Care will allocate a doctor to you. * k) P$ Z. `7 z! ltvb now,tvbnow,bttvb 8 X2 `# ~* s+ f" F10. If you want to see a doctor of your choice, you'll need to pay for that from your own pocket. Your allocated doctor will decide when and which specialist you can see if the need arises (a process called gate-keeping). ' Y- O. u' G# h% U: nos.tvboxnow.com 0 g' r4 q k& V! u2 e! ^TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。11. The NHFA will pay GPs RM60 (present proposal) for each patient as consultation fees. It does not include medicine. Compare this with presently, for cough and cold visit, the GP would charge RM20-RM30 for consultation and medicine. With 1Care: consultation for GP visit is RM60 and this does not include medicine.公仔箱論壇' M# b8 M' W6 N* `$ z/ G
12. You cannot see your doctor as and when you feel the need arises. There will be a rationing system in place as well. There will also be rationing for specialist care with the GP as the gate-keeper. Likewise if you wish to see the specialist of your choice or go to a hospital of your choice, unless referred by your allocated doctor, you will also have to pay out of your pocket.公仔箱論壇3 j$ Z) [7 {! B& Z- a8 g1 x/ z
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13. Even if you only see the doctor once in a year, you will not get a refund from 1Care. Your medical costs are prepaid in advance irrespective of whether you become sick or not. 9 z; l( S& g7 G; A/ |% yTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。You are also expected to make an additional co-payment for your visit. This is to discourage you from seeing doctors too often.TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。 V4 B6 p* y1 T% B$ k2 B5 _' @" }
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14. You will be prescribed only medicines from a standardised list of not-the- original medicines in keeping with WHO List of essential Medications.. This will save cost for 1Care and maximise profit for the insurance companies. Insurance companies will have major say in the price and the range of this standardise medicine list. It will likely to be the cheapest medicine.4 o& L- E$ w" k1 Z- ^3 e4 F) f1 w
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15. The doctor will only give you injections. You'll need to get all other medicines from a pharmacist, even if it means hauling three sick children with high fever along a hot, dusty busy street looking for the nearest pharmacy.0 |4 y0 b6 l; t
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16. If you do not like what is given to you, you can get alternative care by paying out of your own pocket.4 _7 K. L3 x7 Q4 J
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9 K3 l% l4 ^, G/ C- j lThe Big Picture % b/ y4 {& f' D: Q1 T******* Each year, we all pay a total of RM44.24 billion a year for healthcare - now called National Healthcare Hospitals and clinics ( an integration of public hospitals and clinics, private hospitals and private GPs. which in essence is a privatisation of public and nationalisation of private healthcare facilities) 6 _7 g2 U2 Y+ X9 o8 b1 Ntvb now,tvbnow,bttvb******* All this will now go under 1Care.公仔箱論壇 I( B0 b( Q8 W' [7 D i5 N/ a
******* This means 1Care will get almost RM45 billion a year.+ l q1 k. V1 R- e7 X
******* The administrative cost is likely to be 10% or about RM 4.5 billiontvb now,tvbnow,bttvb7 w2 y6 m1 j* g8 ^
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Who will then care for the poor and the marginalised population when the private and public healthcare corporatize and turned into independent commercial entities each competing with the other for business and profits? " Q% ?2 {$ ]2 m' h% {******* Public hospitals and clinics are service-driven will become corporatize/privatise and have to be profit-driven ) j* R5 V# d0 E Sos.tvboxnow.com******* So who will serve the people in remote places?os.tvboxnow.com: o. [1 H- b+ `8 H! z5 I, @
******* Who will serve the very poor people?tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb, Q, b! ~ U! L0 N$ E9 t% J
Situations 2 c8 p5 v% r4 ?+ t% h/ eTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。What happens when the government introduces 1Care? % e3 t7 c$ J' ^4 i# x; u9 Q 6 S+ R" j) G+ L6 r* r6 I7 JThe whole system of independent one-stop GPs will be restructured and converted into 1Care clinics like the UK NHS general practitioner system. ( {* q5 e* ^3 C* Htvb now,tvbnow,bttvb0 s- A% i9 v; P0 k( H, ~5 d- [
Before: & M( X. _ q! u5 M/ m7 wtvb now,tvbnow,bttvbAli has always having skin rashes for many years. He has to see his doctor once a month to get treatment. That would mean he will have to see his doctor 12 times a year just for this illness. What if he has other illnesses? ( Q5 U4 Q( j8 \7 }% _ 0 g2 U* m8 ?. V& n, H% kTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。Now:/ w2 D1 `' `2 n6 F! A
But now, Ali's doctor has allocated only a budget equivalent to six visits a year. Regardless of how many time Ali would need for his yearly treatment. What happens then? A rationing system will kick in. If the doctor sees Ali too many time, his "P4P" (Pay for Performance) profile will be poor and he will be paid less. ) s5 i4 l7 I+ `+ hos.tvboxnow.comTVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。& k+ o4 Z0 g( Z8 Q+ H4 y0 w
To start with, Ali will probably cannot just walk in and expect to be treated. He will have to make an appointment. There will be a long waiting list. What if Ali needs to be treated for fever or some painful joints? He will also have to wait for his appointment. If he cannot wait and wants immediate treatment from another doctor he will have to pay on his own. This is what the NHS UK system is offering its patients.7 p4 N. A- T8 o% y" k( q O9 ]
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Lim has an appointment to see his doctor over a knee ache. Just before his appointment, he has an ingrown toe nail that has become painful. At the clinic, after his doctor treats him for his knee ache, he asks his doctor if he could look into his ingrown nail. His doctor says "No, the system does not allow me to do that. You must make another appointment. This visit I can only treat and bill for your knee ache. 1Care will accuse me of over-servicing my patients. I have no discretion here, all is by SOPs" This is what the NHS UK system is like today.9 v$ Q" n2 y! }3 u5 x2 q0 _3 @
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Mutu lives in a remote rubber estate. One day he had chest pain and went to the nearby 1Care clinic..He has blood pressure problems since young and has had fits. A hospital assistant saw him. Because of a change of his medications to the cheapest not-the-original medications, his blood pressure went out of control and his seizures returned. He developed a fatal stroke and died This is already what is happening when essential original medications are replaced with the cheapest .The cheapest medications is not necessarily the best for the patient and certainly not the safest.os.tvboxnow.com% A0 a0 @; H7 `/ K, g" r* T
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Every salary man must get a 5-9% deduction from his salary to fund this scheme. This money is taken and gone for good even if you don't see a doctor.作者: mowchienhung 時間: 2012-2-12 11:03 PM
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: I% J0 k$ d8 S/ {9 O' cpic via: New Straight Times Malaysia [-EL]作者: hehe82 時間: 2012-2-13 09:08 PM
stupid asshole project, what kind of idiot's project? Useless government = Sucking citizen money !TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。/ O& G ^1 \/ s5 x9 G$ t4 ?! G
Limited to 6 times per day + normal illnesses only? WTF, need to pay so much yet get this stupid lousy service? , S" G1 |3 Q" I+ LWe can get any normal illnesses for only RM 20 to 50 each time, for RM 200, we can go clinic at least 4 times per month ! . A8 o& j6 S1 dWho cares to go to the stupid lousy government service clinic?作者: wasimasterQ 時間: 2012-2-14 11:40 AM
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雪州行政议员西维尔（Xavier Jeyakumar）指出，通过一马健保计划所取得的是一笔巨额。它甚至直逼公积金局这些年来（积累）的水平，每一年（的积累）是数以亿计的。4 Z8 c1 X q7 T% _5 S2 I, q: I1 T
$ F c! \ G: A, v' c5 Q; E这样的一大笔钱落在国阵手中，非常叫人担忧，西维尔举例说明，政府已染指雇员公积金，在违反公积金会员利益的情况下，拨出15亿令吉来推动廉价屋业计划。因此，未来难保政府不会对一马健保采取同样的做法。 . G8 p- s, W8 i+ W公仔箱論壇TVBNOW 含有熱門話題，最新最快電視，軟體，遊戲，電影，動漫及日常生活及興趣交流等資訊。( }8 D4 `5 W: m( m- ]7 ?% ~! ?1 [
西维尔是公正党籍雪州行政议员，掌管卫生、园丘工人、贫穷与爱心政府事务。他过去曾是执业牙医。os.tvboxnow.com6 D) P9 v( M# a* h9 x; m
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一马健保计划强制雇员与雇主参加社会保险计划，根据薪资缴纳一定的额度，政府届时同样也会支付部分费用。 * W% s* `. [$ o5 H! F& v) ]* V# j & U9 Y- V2 n" n ]/ Xos.tvboxnow.com西维尔表示，从过往无数私营化计划的纪录中，民众已无法相信政府真能透过一马健保来达致减缓医药开支。tvb now,tvbnow,bttvb6 u& w; |4 ]2 Z6 L2 N! d' m1 u O
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政府历年的记录实在太糟糕，以致无法令人相信它能够妥善管理一马健保计划下，通过课税所取得的庞大金钱。作者: mkteng1975 時間: 2012-2-14 01:39 PM
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，他们当全马来西亚人都是笨蛋和傻瓜吗 
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